From: "Noce, Anthony" <A_Noce**At_Symbol_Here**ACS.ORG>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Compressed gases and sparking electronics
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 17:33:25 +0000
Reply-To: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU>
Message-ID: 374d0c0f7cff4603bc5ea0e335b9bd4b**At_Symbol_Here**acs.org
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*sigh*

 

I point out that the Rainbow Experiment does not necessarily violate a code.
Having said that, I believe that we all agree it is inherently dangerous and should never be done as an in-school demonstration, correct?

 

Just because something does not violate a specific code does not mean that it is safe.
I think we all realize that.

I would point out the risks to the Administration – whatever they think they are saving in capital costs are trivial compared to the damages to be awarded in lawsuits following an incident.

 

 

 

 

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Anthony (Tony) Noce

(202) 872-4447

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From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU> On Behalf Of Nora Dunkel
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 12:08 PM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: [EXT] [DCHAS-L] Compressed gases and sparking electronics

 

[Actual Sender is owner-dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**princeton.edu]

Hello all,

 

Curious to get this group’s input… I recently discovered a large A/V rack in the gas cylinder room of my university’s science building.  The A/V rack is hardwired into the wall, and is NOT spark-proof/hospital grade.  It could make sparks at any time.  In the same room, we have full cylinders of compressed oxygen, nitrous oxide, and air. The room itself likely has flammable construction.  We probably have about 50 employees in the building, plus hundreds of students during the academic terms.

 

All the science faculty are (rightly) having a conniption fit and demanding that the A/V rack be moved to another room.  However, the city fire chief inspected and said that “cylinders were properly stored and there was no open flame in the room”, so no move was necessary, as no code was violated.  So now the administration is dragging its feet, saying that the rack doesn’t need to be moved (and IT suggested that we should just plug it back in).

 

Are there resources out there to convince the higher level of Administration that this situation is inherently hazardous and worth the resources to correct?  Besides pedantically explaining the fire triangle/tetrahedron to them and bringing up the Apollo 1 fire?  Or are the entire biology, chemistry, physics and nursing faculty (and I) all over-reacting?

 

Thanks for your help,

 

Nora Dunkel

Chemical Safety Officer

Webster University

314-246-2244 (office)

noradunkel51**At_Symbol_Here**webster.edu

 

 

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