From: DAVID Katz <DAKATZ45**At_Symbol_Here**MSN.COM>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Safety with Hydrogen-Filled Balloons
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2019 08:55:20 +0000
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As a demonstrator, I have used hydrogen and hydrogen-oxygen filled balloons.  They are always filled right before use and kept away from any ignition source or possible source of static electricity. I would also use lecture bottles of hydrogen so I could fill the balloons in class.  The cost of the lecture bottles, as opposed to standard cylinders, was minimal in view of the safety of not having to move the filled balloons from the lab to the classroom.  For anyone using hydrogen-filled balloons for demonstrations, one or two balloons, of reasonable size, are sufficient.  Although, I perfer a large test tube filled with as close to 100% hydrogen hydrogen as possible.  I can reduce the lighting in the classroom and we can watch the hydrogen burn slowly and then observe the condensation formed on the walls of the test tube.
 
When I did my research, I used lecture bottles of reactive or flammable gases attached to the reaction apparatus when needed. Proper stands and clamping were used for the lecture bottles.  Again, the cost of the lecture bottles was minimal for the increased safety.
 
David
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From: Wilhelm, Monique
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Safety with Hydrogen-Filled Balloons

I was always taught to only use balloons for inert gases and that is what we follow where I am.

 

Monique Wilhelm

Laboratory Manager

Department of Chemistry & Biochemistry

University of Michigan - Flint

 

From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU] On Behalf Of Craig Merlic
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2019 1:39 PM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: [DCHAS-L] Safety with Hydrogen-Filled Balloons

 

Colleagues,

 

Following up on the explosion at IIT-Bombay which injured a professor and 2 interns:

https://www.hindustantimes.com/mumbai-news/explosion-at-iit-bombay-injures-professor-2-interns/story-i8UkvjMhnKnDeLyjKUj8iM.html

 

And the dramatic acetylene balloon explosion:

http://www.esdjournal.com/static/Kansas/dauer%20truck.htm

 

This raises questions about the very common synthetic technique used in research labs of using hydrogen-filled party balloons for small scale reduction reactions at atmospheric pressure.   Researchers often fill party balloons with 1-5 liters of hydrogen at a regular gas cylinder, sometimes walk through the lab to their hood, and then connect the balloon to a reaction flask.  (All that in contrast with hydrogenation under pressure in a Parr reactor using fixed high pressure lines.)

 

  1. Have there been reports of explosions when using hydrogen-filled balloons for lab reduction reactions?
  2. What safety precautions should be followed when balloons are used?

 

I can envision a number of things to do to avoid or discharge static electricity, but wonder if others have experience in this.

 

Thanks,

Craig Merlic

 

Professor of Chemistry

UCLA Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry

Executive Director 

UC Center for Laboratory Safety

http://cls.ucla.edu

Los Angeles, CA  90095-1569

Voice:  310-825-5466

 

 

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