From: Jeffrey Lewin <jclewin**At_Symbol_Here**MTU.EDU>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Elevator Entrapment while Transporting a Liquid Nitrogen Dewar
Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 08:30:32 -0400
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While I'd welcome a freight elevator in the chemistry building, from what I've seen for both freight and passenger elevators, it's not the ride that is the most dangerous part of the trip, its getting on and off the elevator. That's when the top heavy cart carrying methylene chloride catches a wheel on the threshold, dumping its contents forcing a building evacuation. Or that's when the poorly segregated glass containers bang together, or poorly sealed containers overturn.. Or the student hand carrying a flask (wearing a glove to "protect themselves") trips on the carpet the custodian put out to catch dirt and grim. Or the department that was too cheap to buy a gas cylinder cart uses a regular hand truck and the person moving the cylinder looses their balance exiting.

Jeff

On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 4:00 PM Monona Rossol <0000030664c37427-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**lists.princeton.edu> wrote:
Twas ever thus. The chapter on ventilation and building design in the soon-to-be-published 4th Edition of the Artist's Complete Health & Safety Guide starts this way:

In 1977, Architect Walter Netsch was attending a dedication of the school he designed for the Art Institute of Chicago. This brand new building already had ventilation problems, cracking floors, and other issues. The students confronted him on a stairway during a walk through of the facility. They asked him about some of these things and most specifically they asked what on earth he was thinking when he put a skylight in the photographic darkroom.
Netsch replied: "I didn't build a school of art. I built a sculpture in Grant Park." And then he walked away.

Monona Rossol, M.S., M.F.A., Industrial Hygienist
President: Arts, Crafts & Theater Safety, Inc.
Safety Officer: Local USA829, IATSE



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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Elevator Entrapment while Transporting a Liquid Nitrogen Dewar

On 5/12/2018 10:11 AM, Monona Rossol wrote:
The appearance of the outside of the building and the things that impress visitors are the sacred issues
Oh man, did you ever get that right (not that I am surprised). The project manager or whatever his title was at the time sat in meeting with the chemistry faculty at the time and said that they were designing for street appeal and not function - I heard him say it. This was over the fact that they wanted all these angles in the facade which cost tons of extra money (hence no freight elevator) and columns in the most inconvenient places in rooms. We wanted a building with nice rectangular hallways and more space.
Sammye


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