From: NEAL LANGERMAN <neal**At_Symbol_Here**CHEMICAL-SAFETY.COM>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] SDS and label software
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 10:17:04 -0700
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Kathy, Dave, Peter, Dan, Mike and others interested in this string.

 

Thank you for the discussion of WERCs and other SDS authoring software.  It is very helpful.

 

Here is the back story that may put some perspective on my request.

Since the mid-80’s I (my companies) have been providing safety and regulatory help to a niche chemical company supplying an international market.  No consumer activity. The company was just acquired by a larger global and I am taking this opportunity to move forward in my attempt to retire.  I am transitioning out of preparing their SDSs and labels by helping them replace me with software.  As part of the transition plan, they have agreed to finally bring on a full time EHS person to pick up all the other EHS help I have provided.  The plan is to make all this happen by the end of 2019. If I can make this happen, then the only piece of my professional life I will still have open is litigation support. 

 

So, thank you all for helping me move toward my goal of spending at least 10 hours per week under (WARM) water becoming one with the fish and marine critters.

 

I have collected these conversations and passed them on to the management at the chemical company.

 

Neal

 

 

 

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From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU> On Behalf Of Peter Zavon
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2019 7:07 PM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] SDS and label software

 

I agree with both Dan and Kathryn.

 

WERCS is very flexible and will accommodate most languages.  They can customize translations using a translation table so your special wording can be used, not just the boiler plate they provide.  But it requires some intense training to use effectively and, as of the last time I had access (some 3 years ago), it is not easy to use especially if all your SDS are not precisely suitable for the general template you put together.  It does let you set up to meet US and EU, and other, formatting requirements separately if you want – just create another template.

 

On the other hand it is very structured, so limiting precise adjustments for specific circumstances without lots of effort.

 

It is also not cheap.

 

 

Peter Zavon, CIH
Penfield, NY

PZAVON**At_Symbol_Here**Rochester.rr.com

 

 

From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU] On Behalf Of Dan Nowlan
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2019 8:32 PM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] SDS and label software

 

I suspect I'll get little sympathy from this group but as a formulator, I absolutely HATE using Wercs. Not only is it cumbersome to navigate, but I feel like nobody outside the company needs to know ALL our secret weapons if they are not posing health risks not otherwise represented by another ingredient. If I'm using non-haz components (by design!), that should be my business. Glycerine? PG? GMO? Who cares. They shot me down just the other day for not disclosing 50 ppm amylene in a 60% methylene chloride formula. Seriously?!

  

Dan

  

Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

  

 

 

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From: Kathryn Strang <00000813eb1d48e7-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**LISTS.PRINCETON.EDU>

Date: 7/12/19 6:24 PM (GMT-06:00)

To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU

Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] SDS and label software

 

Neal

UL's The WERCS software dies GHS SDS in approximately 70 languages.  It can also do labels.  We used it for many years in my company.  I am retired but they are still using it.

Kitty Strang

 


On Friday, July 12, 2019 NEAL LANGERMAN <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU> wrote:

All 200 SDS’s and labels need to be in 50 languages

 

Sent from Neal Langerman's NEXUS 6.
Standard client confidentiality terms apply.

 

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 14:00 Peter Zavon <pzavon**At_Symbol_Here**rochester.rr.com> wrote:

50+ languages or 50+ SDS to be translated?


Peter Zavon, CIH
Penfield, NY

PZAVON**At_Symbol_Here**Rochester.rr.com



-----Original Message-----
From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety
[mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU] On Behalf Of NEAL LANGERMAN
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2019 3:16 PM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: [DCHAS-L] SDS and label software

All

I need some suggestions for SDS and label generating software that handles
both the GHS SDS and GHS label and produces results in many languages.  My
immediate language need is for 50+ translations.

Thanks for your ideas

Neal

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