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Date: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 at 10:23:57 AM
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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Former student sentenced to seven years for poisoningco lleague
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 11:31:19 -0600
Author: Alan Hall

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From: Monona Rossol <0000030664c37427-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**LISTS.PRINCETON.EDU>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Former student sentenced to seven years for poisoningco lleague
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 16:33:59 +0000
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So interesting.  As someone who recreates by studying Chinese history and who is known to recite all the dynasties in order to NY Chinese taxi drivers, I know there is a long tradition of poisoning as a method of regime-change in China.  Even though the Chinese invented gun powder, I know of no emperor or high official in the later Dynasties or from Mao to today that was ever assassinated with a gun. If someone knows of a case, I'd love to hear about it.


Obviously there are vastly more incidents of one student in the US shooting or stabbing another.

It's not the weapon, but the objective that needs looking at.

Monona


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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Former student sentenced to seven years for poisoningco lleague

Following up on this thread, this article just appeared about a 1994 Chinese thallium poisoning case, which appears to be one of several cases now of Chinese students poisoning rivals. Two more to add to the previous discussion:

https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/12/new-study-establishes-timeline-for-famous-thallium-poisoning-cold-case/

https://archive.shine.cn/metro/society/Death-sentence-upheld-in-Fudan-poisoning-case/shdaily.shtml 

And it's not just chemistry, either. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-22378488 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/sep/17/china 

Of course, murder of rivals and deliberate poisoning is not confined to China as myriad history books and a quick web search will attest. All such incidents are a reminder to always be cognizant of cultural and social issues/pressures; profiling, of course, is not useful/acceptable, but there are usually behavioral warning signs and proactive measures that can be taken when they are spotted.

Rob Toreki

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