From: James Kaufman <jim**At_Symbol_Here**LABSAFETY.ORG>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] 4% vs. 5% hydrogen
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 17:45:20 -0400
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Matheson considers it flammable.

https://rsc.aux.eng.ufl.edu/_files/msds/349.pdf

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On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Dan Nowlan <dnowlan**At_Symbol_Here**berrymanproducts.com> wrote:

This ISO method is intriguing-and expensive ($162). I'm curious if it might be suitable for screening refrigerants/HFCs/HFOs for use as a flash point suppressant in an otherwise flammable chlorinated solvent (or solvent mixture containing a splash of IPA for water take-up). Any constructive feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Best regards,

Dan Nowlan

Chemist, R&D

Berryman Products, Inc..

(817) 640-2376, ext. 147

From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU] On Behalf Of Whitney Rochelle Hess
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2018 8:38 PM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] 4% vs. 5% hydrogen

Hi Debbie,

This is related to the molar heat capacity of the inert gas. The larger the molar heat capacity, the greater the inerting effect. Argon has a smaller molar heat capacity compared to nitrogen, so a lower concentration of H2 in argon would support flame propagation. ISO 10156 is a good reference for this.

Best,

Whitney

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From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety [DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU] on behalf of Debbie M. Decker [dmdecker**At_Symbol_Here**UCDAVIS.EDU]
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2018 7:34 PM
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Subject: [DCHAS-L] 4% vs. 5% hydrogen

Hi all:

Riddle me this - why is 5% hydrogen in nitrogen considered NOT flammable and 4% in argon considered flammable? Tried to reach Praxair but no one is home.

This makes absolutely no sense to me.

Thanks,

Debbie

Debbie M. Decker, CCHO, ACS Fellow

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that proceeds smoothly under normal conditions,

can proceed violently in the presence of an idiot."

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