From: Michael <mabuczynski**At_Symbol_Here**HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] SDS missing ingredients
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 16:25:55 +0000
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You need to realize the SDS are for occupational use not consumers. Can you imagine if people used the PPE info off of the SDS when doing intermittent cleaning with a household cleaner or when loading a clothes washer with laundry detergent. Do consumers really know what the CAS # and Chemical name mean. That's why Product labels are more appropriate for their uses, although I think Product labels could be written better

Mike Buczynski
Sr EHS Advisor Product Stewardship Regulatory Affairs
Afton Chemical

On Feb 26, 2018, at 10:34 AM, Meschewski, Brian D <bmesche2**At_Symbol_Here**ILLINOIS.EDU> wrote:

I have definitely encountered this, particularly when I look at consumer products. I only use Safety Data Sheets as an initial introduction, and only find them to be useful in certain cases. Like others have mentioned, Sigma-Aldrich is probably your best bet for a decent SDS, but consumer products are often mediocre.

 

Brian Meschewski

Research Safety Professional

Division of Research Safety

University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

(217)333-2423

bmesche2**At_Symbol_Here**illinois.edu

 

From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU] On Behalf Of Hadden, Susan [JRDUS]
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 8:55 AM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: [DCHAS-L] SDS missing ingredients

 

While investigating an incident at my site recently, I came across an interesting issue. Interested in your thoughts.

 

The material involved is a commercially available spray disinfecting cleaner.

 

The container label listed these ingredients:

Active ingredients:

N-alkyl dimethyl benzyl ammonium chloride, 0.1%

N-alkyl dimethyl ethyl benzyl ammonium chloride, 0.1%

Inert ingredients:  98%

 

I pulled the SDS to look for more exposure information. The SDS (updated June 2017) did not list those active ingredients but did list the propellants used and EDTA.  

This is what the SDS says:

 

Chemical Name                                                CAS number       %

Butane                                                                 106-97-8               1-5

Diethylene glycol monobutyl ether            112-34-5               1-5

Propane                                                               74-98-6                 1-5

EDTA                                                                     64-02-8                 1-5

 

Composition comments                US GHS: The exact percentage (concentration) of composition has been withheld as a trade secret in accordance with paragraph (i) of 1910.1200.

 

I took that statement to mean the exact percentage of the ingredients listed were withheld, not that there were other ingredients not listed. It says percentage, not components. Though if you do the math, clearly something is missing from this list.

 

I thought that rather odd so I called tech support of the manufacturer. At first, they were confused as well, then told me that because the active ingredients were EPA registered materials, they did not have to be listed on the SDS. My reaction: Say what???

 

I have seen SDS that said proprietary mixture but still gave you a clue. But I had no idea an SDS could give no indication that there were other ingredients. 

 

No one I have asked at my organization has ever heard of this.

 

Have any of you? 

 

Signed,

No longer trusting SDS (which I suppose I should know better than to anyway).

 

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