From: pzavon**At_Symbol_Here**ROCHESTER.RR.COM
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Question About MCHM
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 02:36:18 +0000
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In my current position, I help numerous facilities deal with those OSHA letters of complaint. I can tell you that there ARE some checks in the process.

For example, Federeal OSHA, and many of the states, explicitly require that the complaint letter and the employer's written response be posted were all effected employees have an opportunity to see it. Employees can and have gotten back to OSHA saying that the response is not adequate in one way or another. That, in itself, can trigger an actual, on-site inspection.

Perfect? Certainly not. But it is something.

-- PLZ

---- Monona Rossol wrote:
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> You've got it right, Peter. I've known David Michaels, the current head of OSHA, for over 30 years. In one of his press releases he explained the problem this way: OSHA has enough inspectors to visit every workplace in the US for 15 minutes once every 133 years.
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> OSHA prioritizes only because they have such a limited budget to enforce. Gone are the random inspections. Gone are visits after every complaint. Instead, they send a letter to the employer stating what the reported issue is and give them certain number of days to correct it. Then all the employer has to do is send another letter saying it is fixed. I don't even have to point out to you all the flaws in this procedure.
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> If someone falls from a defective fixed ladder on the side of the chemical holding tank and is killed, then you can expect OSHA will come take a look.
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> We get the enforcement we are willing to pay for. And apparently, the majority, and/or their representatives, think this is just fine. They don't see the inconsistency in their thinking when they complain indignantly about the WV spill or the West Fertilizer explosion.
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> After a lifetime of watching this behavior, I see no signs it will change. So it must be what they want.
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> Monona Rossol, M.S., M.F.A., Industrial Hygienist
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Zavon
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> Sent: Sat, Feb 8, 2014 8:39 am
> Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Question About MCHM
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> OSHA inspects workplaces, not storage tanks and such, except as part of a workplace inspection. The number of inspectors available to OSHA are very few compared to the number of workplaces, so they prioritize based on injury/illness rates of industries, employee complaints, and a limited number of other criteria. Many workplaces don‰??t see an OSHA inspector from one decade to another.
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> My understanding is that these storage tanks were not subject to state inspection, nor to most other inspection regimes.
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> Peter Zavon
> Penfield, NY
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> PZAVON**At_Symbol_Here**Rochester.rr.com
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> From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU] On Behalf Of Casparian, Armen
> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 2:39 PM
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> Rob,
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> You‰??re right. The media missed a lot of aspects to this story. Like how could a chemical be used on a regular commercial basis and not have its health effects more carefully known, especially in the event of an accident. There must be some very fine print in the TSCA law that exempts this chemical. Also in question if the fact that this chemical, like many others such as off-grade plasticizers, contain unknown impurities, whose health effects may be known or unknown, and if known, disclosed to the end user, in the event of an accident. HAZMAT Team response time if critical. OSHA inspection schedules of the storage tanks and facilities, which I heard anecdotally were also relaxed for this company and type of operation. If anyone knows why, I would love to hear it. Thanks for your response.
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> Armen
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> Armen S. Casparian
> Professor (Retired), Dept. of Sciences
> Wentworth Institute of Technology
> Boston, MA 02115
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> In my mind, the media fell short on their coverage of this whole debacle. The real story was not that 10,000 gallons leaked into a river.
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> The REAL story should have been - what happens to the probably millions of gallons of this stuff when it is used for its intended purpose of "coal flotation"? What happens to it afterwards? History demonstrates that coal companies are not the best stewards of the environment.
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> Rob Toreki
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> On Feb 6, 2014, at 7:53 AM, "Secretary, ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety" wrote:
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> From: Casparian, Armen
> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 1:08 PM
> Subject: Question About MCHM
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> Hi All,
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> In the January 20 edition of C&EN, in the article ‰??Toxicity Unknown,‰?? we are told that East Chemical manufactures 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol (MHCM) and Freedom Industries buys it (and it crude form, which probably means it contains some unknown impurities) to use as a coal cleaning agent in coal powered electric power generation stations. Also mentioned is the fact the 37 year old Toxic Substances Control Act is supposed to regulate substances used in commerce. In this matter, that responsibility falls on the shoulders of EPA. The article also states that ‰??companies are not mandated to submit hazard information to EPA, except when data suggest the possibility of substantial risk.‰?? Further, the article states that ‰??TSCA sets up complex legal requirements that EPA must meet before the agency can require manufacturers (I assume Eastman Chemical) to provide toxicity data for a chemical in commerce.‰?? What does the law say about the responsibility of users buying!
the chemical,!
> like Freedom Industries? Risk is a product of the health hazards and the probability of an accident occurring, i.e. leaking into the Elk River. It seems from the MSDS provided by Eastman Chemical, a thorough knowledge of the health effects of MHCN was undetermined. Being in crude form, it may or may not have a CAS #. As a regulatory and enforcement agency, shouldn‰??t EPA have required more thorough studies and documentation about this chemical, from either Eastman Chemical or Freedom Industries, before allowing it in commerce? Perhaps, these ‰??complex legal requirements‰?? need to be changed. Moreover, what do Freedom Industries records show as far as periodic inspections of the storage tanks and their condition, as required by OSHA regulations? A somewhat similar set of circumstances were present in the Bhopal, India accidental release of methyl isocyanate (MIC) in 1984. And we know what the consequences were then. In the same issue, in the ‰??Safety First !
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> he editor‰?? article, I think Jim Kaufman is right on target when he states that ‰??It‰??s criminal that principals and superintendents (in this case company chemical health and safety inspection teams as well supervisory regulatory inspection teams) aren‰??t paying more attention to compliance with health and safety regulations.‰??
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> Armen Casparian
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> Armen S. Casparian
> Professor (Retired), Dept. of Sciences
> Wentworth Institute of Technology
> Boston, MA 02115
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