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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Cotton content of jeans
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:31:45 -0500
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In mentioning “corrosives” a distinction must be made for acidic vs. basic (just as with the new GHS, BTW); cotton is cellulose and particularly reactive to acid, wool and particularly leather is attacked by aqueous base. Nylon and polyester may be more base than acid sensitive.

For me, the idea of being able to quickly remove (snap or Velcro closures rather than buttons) a lab coat if splashed or on fire is comforting.

 

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Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 10:55 AM
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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Cotton content of jeans

 

Kim,

Although cotton may be the best is a fire situation, I read in the original post that corrosives were also in question.  Synthetics are better protection for corrosives.  There is no one size fits all PPE.  It would be best to determine what the biggest risk would be during a lab inspection.  Working in the lab carries yet another level of decision making for clothing and PPE.

MB

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From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeskie, Kimberly B.
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 4:28 AM
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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Cotton content of jeans

 

Thank you Neal. This is data I can use to piece together a compelling story.

 

Kim

 

From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU] On Behalf Of NEAL LANGERMAN
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 11:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Cotton content of jeans

 

Kim

 

Here are relevant data

Heat of Combustion kJ/g

 

Gasoline                             47

Polypropylene                   46

Polyester                            31

Cotton                                16

 

Here are ignition temps

 

Relative summary of the flammability properties of fibers:
 

Fiber

Heat of Combustion
(Kcal/g)

Ignition Temperature 
(=B0C)

Cotton

3.9

255

Rayon

3.9

420

Nylon

7.9

575

Polyester

5.7

560

Wool

4.9

600

Zipro Wool (Treated with Zirconium, a heavy metal)

 -

 -

Source: Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization (CSIRO) (Australia)

The conclusions are fairly obvious – Polypro and Polyester are solidified gasoline.  Mixtures dilute the energy..

 

When I go to refineries and other “increased risk” locations, I wear only cotton.

 

In my reactives workshop, I discuss garment choice, in particular bras, underpants, and tee shirts!

It is fun to watch the facial reactions…..

 

I consider this one of the overlooked topics in lab/ pilot plant safety – I learned this lesson at production plants.

 

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From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeskie, Kimberly B.
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 9:23 AM
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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Cotton content of jeans

 

Here, scrubs are reserved for certain groups of people, but that’s a good point. It’s something I wouldn’t have thought to recommend for lab workers just because they are normally associated with these specific groups.

 

From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU] On Behalf Of Laurence Doemeny
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 11:50 AM
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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Cotton content of jeans

 

Why do they need to be jeans?  How about a set of cotton scrubs.  Inexpensive and serve the purpose.

 

From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeskie, Kimberly B.
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 3:45 AM
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Subject: [DCHAS-L] Cotton content of jeans

 

Doing some back to school shopping this weekend, I had an aha moment.  My traditional go to “uniform” for doing laboratory inspections has always included jeans.  It’s becoming very difficult to find women’s jeans that don’t include some percentage of polyester and spandex (e.g. the magic ratio appears to be something like 70ish% cotton, 2% spandex and the balance being polyester).  My assumption is that these blends would not hold up well to contact with corrosives and are not something you would want on your body during a fire situation.  I’m wondering if this is something that organizations have had to factor into their training in recent years and if anyone has seen actual data about how the blends hold up against these kinds of hazards.

 

Kim

 

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