From: "Robin M. Izzo" <rmizzo**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Flame Resistance & Lab Coats
Date: January 28, 2013 11:48:36 AM EST
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Russ,

I will look for the literature on this, but to quickly answer about the treated coats vs. Nomex, the companies that sell the treated coats say that the fire resistance begins to fail after two years. The Nomex is more expensive, but the fire resistance does not fade.

I have seen some literature on all but the human toxicity of the treated FR coats.

Thanks,
Robin


Robin M. Izzo, M.S.
Associate Director, EHS
Princeton University
609-258-6259 (office)

Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
~ Mark Twain

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From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU] On Behalf Of Russell Vernon
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 1:01 PM
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Subject: [DCHAS-L] Flame Resistance & Lab Coats

So the discussion in the UC Lab Safety world now includes flame retardant lab coats and human/environmental potential consequences.

I would greatly appreciate being pointed toward information that would help us more intelligently discuss these concerns:

How good are FR coats in a real flammable liquid fire? How does that compare to non-FR lab coats?
Are the treated cloth lab coats inferior to the "Nomex" type?
Do the modern treated FR coats demonstrate any human toxicity or environmental adverse effects?

Literature that may help us in answering these kinds of questions is what I am asking you to help me find.

Sincerely,
-Russ

Russell Vernon, Ph.D.

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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Chemical Safety headlines from Google (12 articles)

From: Melissa Charlton-Smith
Subject: RE: [DCHAS-L] Chemical Safety headlines from Google (12 articles)
Date: January 25, 2013 1:33:49 PM EST

Nitric acid is aqueous, so how can it be flammable (in the Tripoli
story)

Possibly someone who KNOWS told the reporter that it's an oxidizer and at certain concentrations can cause combustion in contact with combustible materials....and the reporter took the short root to "it's flammable".

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