From: ACTSNYC**At_Symbol_Here**CS.COM
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Housekeeping chemical
Date: December 7, 2012 1:24:49 PM EST
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Samuella:  GRAND.  I'll buy most of that and sell you 4 more items on "nontoxic:

Nontoxic may actually mean:

1.  The substance has never been tested for any kind of toxicity, either acute or chronic (and there are MANY completely untested chemicals in our products).

2.   The substance was tested for acute toxicity (LD50), but only 4 of 10 test animals died within two weeks after dosing at 5 gm/kg of body weight.

3.  The substance has been shown not to be acutely toxic, but it has never been tested for cancer, birth defects, reproductive or developmental damage, organ damage or any chronic effect (a description which fits the MAJORITY of the chemicals we use).

4.  The substance has had no chronic testing and is labeled "nontoxic" even though it is in a class of chemicals known or suspected to cause cancer, birth defects, or other chronic damage.  For example in my field, 5 substituted anthraquinones are all listed as animal carcinogens by IARC and NTP, but the other 300 anthraquinone dyes and pigments are labeled nontoxic--even those in children's products.   And the benzidine dyes are all restricted as carcinogens, the a lobby group for pigments industry got the benzidine pigments exempted--go figure. 

This whole labeling thing is so SICK.  It is not designed to inform consumers.  It is all about selling products and is completely industry-driven.  And regulators are well-intentioned, technically outclassed patsies.

Monona


In a message dated 12/7/2012 10:50:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, sigmannsb**At_Symbol_Here**APPSTATE.EDU writes:



And now the fun facts!
S-

Organic Does NOT mean


"Chemical Free"
"Safe"
"Healthy"
"Non-Toxic"
And may not mean - "Synthetic Chemical Free"
Pure


Not impure
100 % of the substance is present with no contamination
A solution or substance which consists of a single type of atom or molecule
There are very few "pure" things on earth - Refined sugar is one of the purist food substances (99.80%)   


All- Natural


NO regulatory control of this term
Not synonymous with "organic"
DOES NOT mean "healthy"
"Natural foods are processed without preservatives or additives, but may have been grown with the use of pesticides or other conventional methods."
"The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) regulates the term =E2=80=98natural' only as it applies to added color, synthetic substances, and flavors." 

Non-Toxic


Without poisonous qualities
A substance that does not pose a hazard to humans
Non-toxic substances are safe to use, and do not harm humans and the environment  (EPA)
NO regulation of the use in advertising, labeling, etc. 

 



On 12/6/2012 12:15 PM, Samuella B. Sigmann wrote:
Great Post Monona -

Here are some fun facts from a presentation ( "Chemicals: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly") that I did a few years back on misconceptions about chemicals and perceived risk - mostly propagated by advertising.  My favorite commercial (have not seen it in a long time) was "chemical free" make-up.



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