Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 10:23:01 -0600
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From: Patrick A Ceas <ceas**At_Symbol_Here**STOLAF.EDU>
Subject: Re: Eye protection in chemistry labs
In-Reply-To: <D2030EF7A3C34EFF9BCFBAC13C8CE30F**At_Symbol_Here**bruekbergterm1>

Unfortunately we (i.e., the extended community of people who use/handle/sell hazardous chemicals & associated equipment) are not in agreement on the importance of safety, or at the very least not all folks are well-informed on proper PPE, SOP's, etc., otherwise we would not be having this discussion. I agree with Chris & Monona that the time has come for C&EN to require that the advertisers submit images that display at the very least proper PPE -- given these companies' advertising budgets, the cost of taking a few new photos surely can't be much. As Neal stated it is true that C&EN works hard to ensure that proper safety practices are shown in the scientific articles, but (sorry, Neal) this also needs to carry over to the ads. I would also argue that it is more efficient to convince C&EN to require/educate about the importance of such ads instead of going after all the individual ABC companies. Pat Ceas On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Ben Ruekberg wrote: > Might it not be possible to compromise? I think we are all in agreement > on the importance of safety. >

Unfortunately we (i.e., the extended community of people who use/handle/sel l hazardous chemicals & associated equipment) are not in agreement on t he importance of safety, or at the very least not all folks are well-inform ed on proper PPE, SOP's, etc., otherwise we would not be having this di scussion.=A0

I agree with Chris & Monona that the time has come for C&EN to require that the advertisers submit images that display at the very least p roper PPE -- given these companies' advertising budgets, the cost of ta king a few new photos surely can't be much.=A0 As Neal stated it is tru e that C&EN works hard to ensure that proper safety practices are shown in the scientific articles, but (sorry, Neal) this also needs to carry ove r to the ads.=A0 I would also argue that it is more efficient to convince C &EN to require/educate about the importance of such ads instead of goin g after all the individual ABC companies.

Pat Ceas



On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Ben Ruekberg <bruekberg**At_Symbol_Here**chm.uri.edu> wrote:< br>

Might it not b e possible to compromise?=A0 I think we are all in agreement on the importance of safety.< /p>



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